Tuesday, July 16, 2019

abstract algebra - Arbitrary number of algebraically independent elements of prime field: when is that possible?


If we consider the prime field $\mathbb{Q}$, and the field extension $\mathbb{Q}\subseteq\mathbb{C}$, then for any natural $n$ we can find $a_1,...,a_n\in\mathbb{C}$ algebraically independent over $\mathbb{Q}$. To prove this, we use induction on $n$, where the case $n=1$ is trivially true. Now if there are $a_1,...,a_{n-1}$ algebraically independent, we can (if I'm not mistaken) consider an algebraic closure of $\mathbb{Q}(a_1,...,a_{n-1})$, which would still be in $\mathbb{C}$, but also still countable, since $\mathbb{Q}$ and $\mathbb{Q}(a_1,...,a_{n-1})$ are. Hence there must be an $a_n$ as desired.


Is this proof correct so far?



I'm also interested in a more general statement about fields in arbitrary characteristic, something like:



Let $F$ be a prime field. Then for any natural $n$ we can find a field $K$ containing $F$ and elements $a_1,...,a_n\in K$ algebraically independent over $F$.



Unfortunately, I'm not very used to fields, and finite fields especially. I don't know if this statement is true anyway. Could you tell me? If it should be true, is there a way (in finite characteristic) to choose one $K$ for all $n$, and even maybe use a similar way of proving the statement?


Answer



Your proof is correct.


As for your second question: for any field $K$ the set $K(x_1,\ldots ,x_n)$ of (formal) rational functions in $n$ variables is a field containing $K$, and the elements $x_1,\ldots ,x_n$ are algebraically independent over $K$.


One can generalize the last statement: let $X$ be a set. Then the set $K(X)$ of (formal) rational functions in the variables $x\in X$ is a field containing $K$, and the elements $x\in X$ are algebraically independent over $K$.


Note that in a specific rational function only finitely many $x\in X$ actually appear.



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